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Hi all there were some comments and questions asked that I can hopefully answer below:

Can I please as for a continued support for the community engagement process and encouraging all to get involved and participate.

It is important everyone in the community has their say to best inform Council on the long term options for the Olinda Pool site.

No decision has been made on the long term options for the Olinda Pool site. The engagement process is to discuss the value, gaps and opportunities the Olinda Pool site may represent the community in the future.

 
FAQ
 
Q1/ What is the progress of the planned engagement process?

What has been achieved? Workshops with all community interest groups (including CFA yesterday – 6 October 2014) and launch of the on line engagement with a new discussion question posted weekly.

What is coming up? Workshops with young people including the U14 Netball Team; U14 Cricket Team, Scouts and the Yarra Ranges Young Leaders; Bus Stop / Township Walk intercept survey of young people; and a phone survey of 400 households that will be demographically sampled.

 Q2/ How much longer?

Once the engagement activities are completed (next two weeks), Council staff will collate the findings and draft a report for Council to consider next steps. At this time, the community will be informed of the next steps and time frames.

 Q3/ Can Council repair the pool now so the pool can be opened for the upcoming season?

Unfortunately no. The pool will remain closed until a decision is made by Council.

Short term measures were investigated to try and reopen the pool. However, the structural engineer report and condition assessments undertaken identify a range of upgrades required to reopen the pool that is at considerable cost to Council. These are:
 
Repair the pool shell and install hydraulic water stops and a liner to limit water loss and reduce ground water pressure
 
Upgrade the plant and pipe work to meet water circulation standards for safe swimming as stipulated under the Public Health and Infectious Diseases Regulations

·        Refurbish buildings and improve access paths to meet requirements under the Building Code, Disability Discrimination Act and Occupational Health and Safety Act.

Due to the significant cost and risks, Council resolved to explore long term options before making a decision on the future upgrade of the Olinda Pool site.


Q4/ How much does it cost to repair the old pool

 The minimum estimated capital cost of these upgrade works is $750,000. The structural engineer report and condition assessments indicate that these works would deliver a medium term outcome that has been clarified as approximately 10 years.

 These reports are available at Council’s webpage - the Olinda Pool Update.


Q5/ Is Council trying to manipulate the survey outcomes?

 There have been allegations made that Council staff are trying to manipulate the outcomes of the survey, particularly with reference to Theme 5. This is incorrect and what is reported is factual.

 We appreciate there is support for retaining the Olinda Pool as a place that holds local endearment and offers social value, especially for young people and families.

The data we have collected over the last 10 years shows that on average the Olinda Pool recorded visitation of 2,468 at a cost per visit (subsidy) of $22.70. This equates to approximately 18 people per day.

Even if we were to double these statistics, they are still significantly less then the CERM National Industry Benchmark for outdoor pools that recorded visitation of 24,783 at a cost per visit (subsidy) of $6.68. This equates to approximately 177 people per day.


Q6/ What has come out of the engagement to date?

 We have heard that there is support for retaining the Olinda Pool as a place that holds local endearment and offers social value, especially for young people and families. This will be represented to Council along with a range of themes that have been explored with community groups:

 Theme 1: A place that embraces social value, activity and community. A place that embraces the social history of the site and promotes a healthy and active lifestyle all year round.

Theme 2: A place for young people and families. The site is an important place for young people to gather and could provide lots of different activities for families including a wifi park space, multi-activity court, skate elements, ropes course and boulder park.

Theme 3: A place for greater community activity. The site is a place where people can hold community events such as film nights, markets and the writers festival and community programs run by the Olinda Community House.

Theme 4: A place that represents fire safety planning. The site provides a clear open area that provides a sense of safety or retreat in a high bushfire zone. It has a strong relationship with the CFA and could be used to represent fire safety planning.

Theme 5: Repair the existing pool. A place for swimming and summer recreation, lying on the grass and informal social connection.


Q7/ Save the Olinda Pool group submission?

Council staff wish to thank the Save the Olinda Pool group for their submission to the community engagement process. This submission will be reported to Council as the Save the Olinda Pool group’s position on the future of the Olinda Pool site.

6 comments:

  1. Jason, a 'fact' that you have neglected to mention is that Council passed the following motion in January this year:

    “That Council officers immediately investigate alternative methods of repairing the Olinda Pool to expedite its reopening” (Council Minutes 28/01/ 2014).

    You voted against this motion, but a majority of Councillors voted in favour, and so you and all in the council, one assumes, are bound by this resolution. The question that needs to be asked is why this resolution has not been acted upon - i.e. why are steps not being currently undertaken "to expedite the re-opening of our pool". What does this say about Council processes and the worth and integrity of its resolutions? The Hills community is very confused, and also troubled by all this.

    And the other question that 300 residents don't feel was fully answered by you at the Tuesday meeting was why you opposed this resolution in the first place. You have said you were interested more in a long term solution for the pool - but many of the 'facts' you outline above suggest you are fundamentally not interested in a pool option for the site. Is this a valid conclusion to draw?

    Tim Moore - for Save the Olinda Pool

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  2. Pool numbers are incorrect as they are averaged over days when pool is closed.
    Some of the groups listed for consultation have expressed concern in how they are being run and have withdrawn. Are you addressing this?

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    1. Hello thank you for your response, you have left a name so Im sorry not to address you personally. Im fully aware about the numbers and that this is not a true reflection of how many people attended the pool. Mr John Faull has explained to me on many occasions that gates were left open allowing many people to come and go without any form of registration of attendance.

      Im keen to hear which groups feel concerned about the consultation process and have they expressed this to the officers running them? I meet with officers regularly to see who they met with and how it went and who they are going to meet. Please let me know!

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  3. Not sure why the community would want to support the community consultation process after some of you comments when we have expressed concern.

    I think you have lost significant support and respect from the community which is sad as the elected representative.

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  4. Why are you now calling the discussion Facts when some of them clearly are your viewpoints.

    Will you propose an agenda item at the next meeting of council to reopen the pool?

    And if so will you support the motion this time around?

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    1. The original post is a report from council officers NOT my own words. This is categorical! Im not sure why you think they are my "viewpoints"

      The consultation process is wrapping up soon (next 2 weeks) I have been in contact with the officers involved on a very regular basis.

      Im happy to support a motion that ensures Olinda residents have a pool that will last into the future! I will ensure I give you a strong voice to get the best possible outcome! But I can clearly say that any motion prior to the end of the consultation period and report process will not be met with much support!

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